~Matt Key


So, first off, do I think that Daniel Bruhr is playing Baron Zemo in the MCU?

No, especially if he’s supposed to be a main villain in the Doctor Strange movie, which is what Variety is saying.

To my knowledge the mad Baron and the good doctor have never really been rivals outside of their alignments, so, no, I’m not convinced that he’s Baron Zemo, at least if the rumors of him being the big bad in Doctor Strange are true. That would be a bit like doing a movie where Captain America fights Mole Man? Would it be cool to see Cap smash his Vibranium Shield into that weird little guy’s square glasses? Absolutely, but it’s not really the fight fans are dying to see.

BUT, if he turns out to be the big bad for Doctor Strange and Civil War (in some degree), then here’s how I could see it happening.



First of all, what clues have we been given about the Doctor Strange movie?

“We like the idea of playing with alternate dimensions. The very sort of crazy – [Steve] Ditko crazy acid trip way of traveling through dimensions and traveling through other realms is something that we think is very, very cool … playing with the perceptions of reality.” — Screenrant

“We’ve now done the cosmic side with Thor and Avengers and most obviously with Guardians, but there’s a whole other side of the Marvel comics, which is that supernatural side – the interdimensional side of the Marvel universe, and Doctor Strange is, I believe, our entry point into that other realm, which has dozens of characters and story lines all of its own.” — IGN

*italics mine

It’s apparent that they want to do some sort of interdimensional thing with Doctor Strange, giving his magic some semblance of explanation in the mysteries of quantum mechanics, string theory, etc. I mean, after all, he can’t be a full on deus ex machina here, there have to be some limits, right?

Ultimately, my point is that Marvel is thinking he’s some sort of inter-dimensional warrior/guardian.



Sure, this is from Avengers: Earth’s Mightiest Heroes, but still, Zemo. Norn Stones.

So, Baron Zemo doesn’t really do a lot of magic, he’s mostly tech-based in his weaponry and tactics, but there have been times, though rare, where he’s chased after mystic artifacts.

However, in the Ultimate Universe, Loki, in the guise of the original Nazi Zemo, gives some artifacts called The Norn Stones to a young Helmut Zemo, who then uses them years later to unlock Loki from his prison. The Norn Stones, put in the correct sequence, can open a portal to any of the nine realms of Yggdrasil, the World Tree, including Asgard. Loki then uses this gateway to invade Asgard with a Nazi army and a large contingency of Frost Giants from Jotenheim.


I know that it’s supposed to be Civil War with Iron Man Tony Stark fighting Captain America Steve Rogers, but I think while they’re fighting, an even bigger threat is looming and that would be Zemo collecting these Norn Stones.

(Again, I’m TOTALLY speculating here, I’m still not convinced he’ll be Zemo)



So, Civil War comes out, and introduces us to Baron Zemo, maybe gives us a little background on what he’s up to, maybe he has a toned down version of The Masters of Evil (he’s got Crossbones in the movie, after all) helping him collect the Norn Stones and all that. He gets them, portals are opened and now Doctor Strange comes in. His movie is partially dedicated to him acid-tripping through dimensional gateways, trying to stop whatever is going on (most likely ends up fighting Dormammu or something like that), but Baron Zemo and his Norn Stones still prove powerful enough to bring war to Asgard.

Boom. This is what Ragnarok is born out of. Maybe we dig into the Walt Simonson story, maybe we pull from the Ultimates and have an Earth army (most likely not Nazi’s though, probably Hydra) invading Asgard. Just saying that is bonkers.

Or, he’s not Baron Zemo and he’s instead Baron Mordo who makes a brief appearance in Civil War only to become the main bad guy in Doctor Strange.


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